Surprised you have not tried Kratom as of yet. Here is a link for some info on Kratom:  http://kratomassociation.org/

I have only used Kratom twice and have noted its uplifting effects. I have been told that small amounts are stimulating while larger amounts have a sedative effect. I have only used small amounts and both times experienced euphoria and an energy boost. I have read accounts of it being an addictive substance while other accounts deny this.

Check out this site, they offer a free sample of Kratom. At the time they sent me one with no shipping cost, although the site now requests a $4.95 shipping fee which is quite fair: http://khibotanicals.com/ A small price to pay to see if the product will help you out. KHI sends me a discount email every month as I am on their mailing list; I just do not avail myself of it because coffee is my main drug and it satisfies most of my needs. They appear to be a quite reputable company nevertheless. I will be happy to do anything in my power to help a brotha out. Although my "powers" are limited, I currently have free time for research and truly wish you the best in your recovery efforts. PM me if there is any way I can help.

Surprised you have not tried Kratom as of yet. Here is a link for some info on Kratom:  http://kratomassociation.org/

I have only used Kratom twice and have noted its uplifting effects. I have been told that small amounts are stimulating while larger amounts have a sedative effect. I have only used small amounts and both times experienced euphoria and an energy boost. I have read accounts of it being an addictive substance while other accounts deny this.

Check out this site, they offer a free sample of Kratom. At the time they sent me one with no shipping cost, although the site now requests a $4.95 shipping fee which is quite fair: http://khibotanicals.com/ A small price to pay to see if the product will help you out. KHI sends me a discount email every month as I am on their mailing list; I just do not avail myself of it because coffee is my main drug and it satisfies most of my needs. They appear to be a quite reputable company nevertheless. I will be happy to do anything in my power to help a brotha out. Although my "powers" are limited, I currently have free time for research and truly wish you the best in your recovery efforts. PM me if there is any way I can help.

Yes, that company is very reputable indeed.

I would almost bet me chickens on you having placed an order before under their last name  :Smokey:

Was a highly soughtt vendor on TGL at one time until blends went AWOL. They have forsaken blends and found a new home.

I’ve tried it a few times, either nada, or ruins my night… I can’t find that damn sweet spot! Or the sweet strain I suppose!! ::)

Sam Fleming aka samtherocker123

Looks like the kind of girlpants wearing fucktard I love to murder in the pit.

Lol I am glad he did not get spiced shut down like he threatened!

Big talk for such a small child.

Sam Fleming aka samtherocker123

Haha what is with everybody feeling the need to take bathroom pics of yourself? No one gives a fuck what your stupid ass looks like.
Good find Cid

Feel like shit today and tomorrow is day I lower dose to a half a strip.  Fuck homies b4 yall join a suboxone or methadone program please realize that it  ur only putting off the inevitable.

Man you can get through this.  Just keep doing your thang.

herb2013 one of the members here has a good Kratom connection you can try pming him also. I know he is not on very often anymore, but it is worth a shot.

Deep Jungle Kratom FTW. Can’t beat the prices and the Green Malay is very nice… my goto for some time now. 5-6 G in the morning and you will be set for the day. Kratom is useful – Expect to be nice and comfy but not anything that "replaces" a buzz. It simply allows you to get on with your day feeling in the right groove and gives you the tools to do the rest. It can def make you feel something but it isrRidiculous that anyone places this is in the realm of synthetic drugs especially bath salts! Like comparing a single wine cooler to a jar of Moonshine.

I accually ordered couple ounces of kratom monday to revisit it been very long time. Anyway good luck tb get some k tho.

Grab some Kratom

I have got requests in for samples from 2 trusted vendors on the kratom association forum.  I am eager to see if this eases the suffering.  Suboxone withdrawals cause restless leg syndrome.  With a broken leg that shit aint feeling good.  Ima review the kratom on here if they go.

I have MS and really good quality Kratom (I like pimp grade Thai or a good Bali) takes the edge off fairly well when I have a flare if it is not too bad of one , brother in law said worked med. well on withdrawal from oxy-c- made it somewhat less horrible than it would have been .

Pimp Thai helps my anxiety attacks and nerve pain..and gives me a good energy..

Bali hurts my tummy..but all my friends swear by it…ANd yes I do believe in Bali sickness.

Would you have any issue with giving a personal account of how withdrawals affect you as an individual? I think it would be helpful for those who can relate as well as informational to those who have not or may not ever have the experience. I have been on opiates for eight months now and of course the doctor states that their is no risk of addiction if the pills are used as prescribed. My concern is that an addiction could develop due to being on them for an extended period of time, regardless of responsible use. My knowledge of withdrawals is limited to what is provided by medical websites and the National Institute for Health. Clinical explanations and detailed personal accounts are two completely different animals in my opinion.

To everyone looking to kratom for easing WD – – – It appears that while kratom will help WD, it also delays it. So that when u then try to taper kratom you may revisit suboxone the levels of WD as opposed to the more mild kratom WD. So we end up with folks on the kratom forums speaking of terrible WD, starting mere hours after that last dose. After viewing many of these personal testimonies it seems most of those with bad kratom WD had used them to halt opiate WD.
I’m not saying kratom has no WD, but after a year plus of daily teas I can say my WD doesn’t start for at least 24 hrs & then it’s maybe runny nose, maybe little extra RLS. Nothing intense. Now, i haven’t personally pushed it much past that, but at least it’s nothing near opiate levels so far. I can choose when to dose, choose to skip a dose etc., nothing that puts me on too strict a schedule. Now let me try going a few days without and u may hear a diff story!!!
Anywho, just a heads up not to treat the kratom as a miracle cure but a step, and a tool that is more masking as opposed to "curing".

I guess the logic is ppl see kratom withdrawal is so mild, they think "Damn ima trade my hydroco shakes/sweats for some of this". But it seems ppl r finding that no, the kratom only delays the hydroco. And of course then we have the folks saying that that subsequent WD is worse than either alone… I do believe it can b an awesome tool, I wish for ppl to use it instead of totally lean on it, delaying the inevitable.