I am submitting this link so that people can be better educated on what may possibly go wrong when using spice. This is a link to Erowid.org’s experience reports vault for Spice products, specifically the list of experience reports submitted under the "Health Problems" subtopic:
This is not to say that any of this will happen to you when you use these products. This link is mainly for educational purposes. I believe that, when it comes to any drug, the more you know about the good and the bad, the more informed you will be as a user and the safer and more responsible of a user you will be able to become.
For the most part, my experience with the products that most of the vendors here are selling has always been positive. Of course, I use only small amounts and I am not a daily user to be safe. Anything when overused and abused can be harmful, as we all know.
I am a believer that the good must also be discussed openly with the bad, but I am not out to demonize blends, as I do believe that if one uses them in a safer manner one can minimize most risks that may occur from use of Spice.
My personal experiences with Spice have been 99% positive and 1% negative. The negative experiences occurred because I used way too much at one time or because I was reckless and I combined Spice with other drugs.
Everyone be chill, be happy, be Spiced and be safe 🙂
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Thanks for this. The better educated we are as a community the better we are overall!
"Your as mighty as the flower that grows the stones away"
Those "trip reports" are basically useless now. They are about old blends that contained chemicals that are banned now, not about the current gen of noids.
Most of them appear to be "experience problems" rather than an overall prolonged usage of such substances too. Titling it completely "Health Problems" is a bit farfetched, but I definitely understand their reasoning, since those experiences sound far from healthy, lulz…
In GOD we trust, all others we monitor – ‘Merika
Thanks, Neiman; knowledge is power. This stuff ain’t no joke! I have learned to respect it. I always tell myself, "you can always add more, but you can’t take it back". Start small, start slow is my advice to all da newbies 🙂
Way back in the day (circa 2007) I remember reading Erowid when people thought spice was a natty–people were pretty amazed and you should have read the conjecture of how exactly the stuff worked! It was also interesting to read the terrible times people were having with things like salvia. My posts there are ancient history, long before even the spice stuff.
Those "trip reports" are basically useless now. They are about old blends that contained chemicals that are banned now, not about the current gen of noids.
The experience reports on Erowid are always updated with new information and it’s interesting to read the old reports as well. Good point, though. My main point is that any blends can cause very bad things to happen if you aren’t very careful about how you treat them. This goes with the old stuff as well as the new stuff and the stuff that hasn’t come along the pipeline yet.
Erowid also has some sections regarding the specific chemicals used in blends, so if you happen to know the name of a chemical being used in newer blends you can look that up and get more up-to-date information.
I mainly just find that reading the bad experience reports on Erowid is great. Very entertaining and it’s a good way to see the common threads that run in the experiences where people have something bad happen to them so you can learn what you shouldn’t do by their example. A lot of the bad times could have been avoided. When I was really into RCs I would read the good and the bad, but I felt I learned the most from the bad experience reports because, once you read enough of them, you figure out WHY these people ended up having a bad time: Inaccurate doses, not testing their drugs to verify it’s what they got, mixing different drugs together, not having a good set and setting, and so on.
I am always up for chatting online with some new and interesting people. I don’t really PM too many people here much. If you see this and you’re interested in chatting or are bored and such. Please hit me up. I LOVE conversation.
Again, a blast from the past issue that still affects people today: no one really expected this stuff to work. OK, it did. The issue is most of us were used to trying "legal herb" and pseusdo buds that were terrible smokes and had no good effects whatsoever–all of a sudden here was something that worked, and the more you smoked, the higher you got! For example, my first blend was a new product called Spice Diamond and because I was used to and expected a "no effect herbiage experience", I did 8 big tokes in a row with no tolerance whatsoever and suffice it to say I was blazed for more than 6 hours and had aftereffects the entire next day. Nowadays, there are some uber strong blends around, a newbie might get ahold of some and try a few tokes before they know what to expect and end up in the ER. All of us with experience know the effects of even a strong dose will pass in about an hour, but not necessarily a newbie. This is also just the kind of bad PR the blend industry doesnt need either, as these events just fuel the fire for abolishionists and anti drug zealots.
I read the trip reports on Erowid and other sites before I tried it for the first time back in 2006. Most people had glowing accounts of the experience. Some people had bad trips but then again, it made me think there might be something to this and actually piqued my interest even more. It does go to show that everyone’s mileage will vary, and it also shows the extent to which people will go to get high. I posted my salvia experiences way back in the late 1990’s and I hope it helped some people to decide if it was worth trying. Information is vital to making good decisions and Erowid has been useful, and all of the trip reports on TGL were very useful as well. Spiced is now carrying the torch–it is a valuable service and important site and I hope everyone can lear from each other’s experiences here.