if you want the best plain leaf for pain relief and relaxation go with their PC bali. I’m putting it in with every order now.

Other than that I rotate on each purchase between all of their lightly enhanced powders. Really can’t go wrong. Levi’s creations are all the shit.

There ain’t that much difference between kratom strains IMO, I would go with a cheap red vein. You want good kratom cheap buy in bulk from bikhuk.us, anyone can buy from them and they ship straight from Indonesia.

Also remember that it is illegal to export kratom from Thailand. Any ‘Thai Kratom’ sold in the US actually comes from Thai strains grown in Indonesia.

thanks Ill give that a shot,

just ordered this and will see how it goes:
1 x Premium Commercial Bali
  – Grams: 50 $17.00
1 x SPF1 Lightly Enhanced Blend
  – Grams: 25 $12.00

what are the ROA options and dosing guidelines, mind you I am doing a lil research  on my own, but would rather hear from people that I know have tried this recently, or do it on the reg, and I just  trust your opinions  🙂

Very good advice Axa. As expected good shit. :goodpost

Im not sure on the enhanced. But the bali, 6grams is my go to. But one always wants the least dose that works due to the antagonists, is a better vibe to find that edge. So maybe start with a little less than normal to see if that works. "Less is more"

The green Malay from Bikhuk is around 15cents/gram and is legendary. I have some on hand always. Takes a cpl more grams than other leaves but is economical and absolutely amazing aroma/legs. They have a US store that may have stock, skip the import.

Very good advice Axa. As expected good shit. :goodpost

Thanks. Lot of bullshit marketing surrounding kratom, everyone selling gets it from Indonesia from just a coupla suppliers. Most kratom sold in the US comes from bikhuk and is marked up 300%. Kratom is like wine, buy it cheap and get it fresh so it is potent. You can get just as drunk from a bottle of two buck chuck as a $30 Korbel champagne.

You can expect physical addiction to kratom, be prepared. But its mild compared, and since kratom appears beneficial theres really no problem with addiction. Just a heads up, ive seen it give ppl the shakes after 3 days straight.

You can function all the way through kratom. Is not a "high" in that sense. Improves concentration etc. Too much and you may get eye wobbles but nothing too junkie appearing. Is fantastic head space, miragynine affects serotonin & has antidepressant properties. Puts things in perspective.

Just remember to always try less when you think you need more. Let kratom down gear for you, contains alkaloids that fight tolerance. So instead of increasing dose, go with a little less satisfying aroma/amount the next time or 2, still getting a range of health benefits if not warm blankets, then the antagonists will whip up those receptirs & your old dose will again be fresh.

Kratom is pretty damn mild, about as strong as a 5 mg hydrocodone. If you develop a habit stopping should not be that much of a problem. If you feel out of sorts for a few days just use low doses of etizolam to chill out until it passes.

They say the worst kratom WD is day 3, stomach cramps, heard possibly from lack of serotonin? A week total, then ppl report depression but im skeptical.

I’ve only went say 48 hrs without, I get quicksand legs like I can’t get them to stop quite right / at the right place.  Fuzzy head like vision lags behind head turns. Sweats in walmart but I think I was panicking, my first day of WD.  Runny nose. Some say diarrhea.

ALTHOUGH—- try to step down off your opiates b4 going full throttle with kratom, before taking daily. Current thought seems to be those folks have the worst time then quitting kratom, as though it delays the opiate WD.

worst withdrawals I get are CRAZY insomnia (can’t get comfortable in the bed. hot then cold. not that sleepy.) and some anxiety when I start breaks. Still not fun. That’s why I space kratom purchases pretty far apart. 😀

thanks for all the advice!!  wow wasn’t expecting that much lol, you guys rock!

I haven’t been on pain pills since 2011, and getting off them sucked BAD, but I was incarcerated so had no choice- haven’t looked back either best thing that happened to me, but that pain monster is creeping up and I would like to explore non narcotic options.

Kratom is pretty damn mild, about as strong as a 5 mg hydrocodone. If you develop a habit stopping should not be that much of a problem. If you feel out of sorts for a few days just use low doses of etizolam to chill out until it passes.

You can get really high on it if you have low/no tolerance to opiates. I just took some enriched thai from speciosapro and it’s kicking in…. feels AMAZING  :cloud9: :cloud9:

Kratom is pretty damn mild, about as strong as a 5 mg hydrocodone. If you develop a habit stopping should not be that much of a problem. If you feel out of sorts for a few days just use low doses of etizolam to chill out until it passes.

Does Kratom or etizolam show up on a drug test? I am on Probation and the last thing I need is a hot U/A, almost at the halfway point, and from my understanding they consider you for early release if you have had no issues that far along in the process

etizolam will show up on a 6 panel