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 dub
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Thousands of doses of synthetic drugs seized from Mechanicsburg, PA shop

More than a dozen people walked past the parked police cars Friday morning up to the door of the Magical Incense Shop that was guarded by police officers with a simple question:

"When’s the shop open?"

One of the men even tried to reach past Mechanicsburg Police Chief David Spotts to get to the door, Spotts said.

The downtown Mechanicsburg shop didn’t open Friday. And Cumberland County District Attorney David Freed wants to keep the shop — which he alleges has been selling synthetic designer drugs for years — closed permanently. Freed closed the store under a temporary injunction signed by Cumberland County Judge Albert Masland. A hearing on the injunction will be held Tuesday, Freed said.

"I hope it sticks," Spotts said. "It will make the borough safer. It will make it a better place."

The Drug Task Force confiscated thousands of items investigators believe to be synthetic drugs, Freed said. The material will be tested in the coming weeks and months. If it proves to be synthetic drugs, Freed said the shop’s owner, Theodore W. Zeiders, 45, of Mechanicsburg, could be charged under the state’s designer drug law. If that is the case, prosecutors will also initiate a civil forfeiture case against Zeiders, Freed said.

Zeiders had not been charged Friday. He was not at his Mechanicsburg home and could not be reached for comment.

At a press conference, Freed showed off some of what investigators seized from the shop, including a big bag of what investigators believe is synthetic marijuana, another called Binger Clean (lab tests have found other batches of Binger Clean bought from Magical Incense to be chemically similar to methamphetamines, according to the search warrant) and something called a Liquidizer, which was sold with syringes. A single dose of Binger Clean sold for $60, Spotts said.

Material purchased from Zeiders’ shop in the past has tested positive as synthetic drugs, Freed said.

Officers also seized more than $10,000 in cash, various paraphernalia, including a Scooby Doo bong with four hoses for four smokers, a tomahawk-shaped pipe and false-bottomed chips and soda containers Spotts said were for hiding drugs.

According to the search warrant, a number of people have been hospitalized after overdosing on products purchased from Magical Incense.
A number of the would-be customers trying to get into the store Friday morning had young children with them, Spotts said. One was wearing an ankle monitor.

in the past, Zeiders has said his store complied with the law. After the designer drug law went into effect, Zeiders told PennLive he had handed any illegal inventory over to police. The "jewelry-cleaning liquid" and other products he restocked the store with were perfectly legal, Zeiders said at the time.

Police disagree.

More than a year ago, Freed said officers warned Zeiders that he was selling designer drugs. He kept selling them, Freed alleges, including to undercover officers.

Those designer drugs undermine any claims Zeiders might make about the bowls and bongs being used to enjoy tobacco, Freed said.

"We can play all the games that we want talking about smoking tobacco," Freed said. "These are not for smoking tobacco. The purpose of these devices is to ingest illegal drugs."

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2013/08/mechanicsburg_head_shop_shut_d_1.html


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Posted : 15/09/2013 4:09 am
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This apple is not a smoking device; it’s for eating. Whatcha mean I’m under arrest?


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Green we stay

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Posted : 15/09/2013 8:50 am
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am I a bad guy?

are the chems evil?

am I going to hell for leading people ?





 
Posted : 15/09/2013 8:55 am
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Booooo Can someone please tell me what is so wrong with wanting to get High? Is it not my life? My Choices? Am I not  a tax paying adult?  What is so wrong with wanting to enhance ones life with some Green Leaf or blends?
Nice post dub.


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 9:42 am
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DISCLAIMER: -EG- RANTING FOLLOWS. PROCEED AT OWN RISK.

am I a bad guy?

are the chems evil?

am I going to hell for leading people ?

Absolutely not.  You are one of the rockin’est mofos I’ve never met.  :rock:

Evil is a relative judgment. 

It does not seem strange that lambs dislike great birds of prey.  However, this provides no grounds for upbraiding these birds of prey for making off with the little lambs. If the lambs were amongst themselves to say, "These birds of prey are evil!  Consequently, whosoever least resembles these birds of prey and is rather their opposite – a lamb – would he not then, be good?’.  There would seem to be no reason to criticize this establishment of such an ideal, except that the birds of prey themselves might view this statement with a bit of irony and say "But we don’t dislike these little lambs in the slightest; actually, we love them!  Nothing is tastier than tender lamb meat." – [Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals]

Some substances are beneficial, and some are harmful to the human condition.  Vitamin C is essential to human life.  Polonium is best avoided altogether by those who wish to continue it.  Clarity in distinction of which is which becomes crucial at certain junctures.

Here’s a good Sunday-morning message that’s sure to be popular: Hell doesn’t exist.  It’s just a scare tactic invented and perpetuated by the founders and followers of various middle-eastern-based mythologies as a mechanism to keep in line those who would willingly and knowingly cross the line between helping and harming their brothers and sisters without fear of some eternal retribution.  Whether through the virtues of good parenting, or simple human empathy, most of us possess this innate sense.  Some sadly do not.  The idea of the omnipresent and ever-watchful cloud being reinforces this meme by planting that seed of doubt, "someone is watching", in hopes that it may dissuade such individuals from crossing said line in absence of direct human-provided feedback from those they have chosen to injure in whatever manner.  IMO, this is most effectively meted by infliction of physical pain upon such trespass, on an ascending scale relevant to the threat presented by the infiler.  Even the simplest folk will observe this scale by loading rocksalt in the first shell, birdshot in the second, and nothing but slugs from there on out.  If the first two aren’t enough to grab their attention, the third surely will put a stop to the threat with finality.  Be wary of those who advocate the removal of that human right to self-preservation in any capacity, as they surely intend to do harm following the successful completion of any such venture.

Hammurabi, and later Draco (amongst countless others), attempted to codify such with varying degrees of success and a common concept of ‘fairness’ by current local standards in counterweight to those who would use such rightful retribution excessively or unjustfully in pursuit of their own self-interests.  Inarguably, many of these early historic equivalencies seem very severe to modern sensibilities, but it can be said that many of our ‘modern and humane’ equivalencies are so plainly insufficient as to barely qualify as such.  While that which brings us joy keeps us motivated, only pain is seared upon the soul as a reminder to avoid in the future those actions that may have led to it’s infliction.  How many of us can still clearly remember the lesson imparted by first touching a hot pan as a child?  Or some random act of parental disobedience that resulted in a "Grade A" ass-whoopin from the old man?  Didn’t do that shit again, did ya? :biggrin 

One’s first slice of cake carries no such importance.  Was it yellow?  White?  Chocolate?  Cream frosting or sugar?  At best, we learn that cake is tasty and carry no more than that nugget o’ wisdom going forward.  😮

/soapbox


 
Posted : 15/09/2013 12:11 pm
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your posts kick ass EG.. :horns up





 
Posted : 15/09/2013 2:12 pm
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DISCLAIMER: -EG- RANTING FOLLOWS. PROCEED AT OWN RISK.

am I a bad guy?

are the chems evil?

am I going to hell for leading people ?

Absolutely not.  You are one of the rockin’est mofos I’ve never met.  :rock:

Evil is a relative judgment. 

It does not seem strange that lambs dislike great birds of prey.  However, this provides no grounds for upbraiding these birds of prey for making off with the little lambs. If the lambs were amongst themselves to say, "These birds of prey are evil!  Consequently, whosoever least resembles these birds of prey and is rather their opposite – a lamb – would he not then, be good?’.  There would seem to be no reason to criticize this establishment of such an ideal, except that the birds of prey themselves might view this statement with a bit of irony and say "But we don’t dislike these little lambs in the slightest; actually, we love them!  Nothing is tastier than tender lamb meat." – [Nietzsche, On the Genealogy of Morals]

Some substances are beneficial, and some are harmful to the human condition.  Vitamin C is essential to human life.  Polonium is best avoided altogether by those who wish to continue it.  Clarity in distinction of which is which becomes crucial at certain junctures.

Here’s a good Sunday-morning message that’s sure to be popular: Hell doesn’t exist.  It’s just a scare tactic invented and perpetuated by the founders and followers of various middle-eastern-based mythologies as a mechanism to keep in line those who would willingly and knowingly cross the line between helping and harming their brothers and sisters without fear of some eternal retribution.  Whether through the virtues of good parenting, or simple human empathy, most of us possess this innate sense.  Some sadly do not.  The idea of the omnipresent and ever-watchful cloud being reinforces this meme by planting that seed of doubt, "someone is watching", in hopes that it may dissuade such individuals from crossing said line in absence of direct human-provided feedback from those they have chosen to injure in whatever manner.  IMO, this is most effectively meted by infliction of physical pain upon such trespass, on an ascending scale relevant to the threat presented by the infiler.  Even the simplest folk will observe this scale by loading rocksalt in the first shell, birdshot in the second, and nothing but slugs from there on out.  If the first two aren’t enough to grab their attention, the third surely will put a stop to the threat with finality.  Be wary of those who advocate the removal of that human right to self-preservation in any capacity, as they surely intend to do harm following the successful completion of any such venture.

Hammurabi, and later Draco (amongst countless others), attempted to codify such with varying degrees of success and a common concept of ‘fairness’ by current local standards in counterweight to those who would use such rightful retribution excessively or unjustfully in pursuit of their own self-interests.  Inarguably, many of these early historic equivalencies seem very severe to modern sensibilities, but it can be said that many of our ‘modern and humane’ equivalencies are so plainly insufficient as to barely qualify as such.  While that which brings us joy keeps us motivated, only pain is seared upon the soul as a reminder to avoid in the future those actions that may have led to it’s infliction.  How many of us can still clearly remember the lesson imparted by first touching a hot pan as a child?  Or some random act of parental disobedience that resulted in a "Grade A" ass-whoopin from the old man?  Didn’t do that shit again, did ya? :biggrin 

One’s first slice of cake carries no such importance.  Was it yellow?  White?  Chocolate?  Cream frosting or sugar?  At best, we learn that cake is tasty and carry no more than that nugget o’ wisdom going forward.  😮

/soapbox

This being in contrast with operant conditioning (i.e. the Skinner test) where known consequences of ones actions -reward/punishment form the basis for the action. A carrot on a stick that can never be attained and threats of damnation and hellfire are just anticipatory consequence that may not come to fruition but are nonetheless influential. Great post EG!


Sail and grow
Deep inside
The brave align
Green we stay

-Boss Keloid Lung Valley

 
Posted : 15/09/2013 11:33 pm
 dub
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Hell doesn’t exist. 

And you know this how?

Hell either exists or it doesn’t. No degrees of "in-between"

50/50 chance you will either just rot in the ground, or you will have demons nibbling on your entrails and sodomizing you with burning pitchforks for all eternity.


"Your as mighty as the flower that grows the stones away"

 
Posted : 16/09/2013 1:24 am
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Hell doesn’t exist. 

And you know this how?

Hell either exists or it doesn’t. No degrees of "in-between"

50/50 chance you will either just rot in the ground, or you will have demons nibbling on your entrails and sodomizing you with burning pitchforks for all eternity.

Man you seemed so smart before this post…. lol kidding of course, my dead grandfather could sound smart on the internet. But i do seriously hope youre kidding, or at least playing devils advocate


 
Posted : 16/09/2013 4:17 am
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Hell doesn’t exist. 

And you know this how?

Hell either exists or it doesn’t. No degrees of "in-between"

50/50 chance you will either just rot in the ground, or you will have demons nibbling on your entrails and sodomizing you with burning pitchforks for all eternity.


"You can't buy happiness… but you can buy weed, which is pretty close."

 
Posted : 16/09/2013 9:39 am
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damnn… ive had a Herb2Vapor extractor and they come in handy. but really to inject syth? WOW 🙁


 
Posted : 16/09/2013 4:19 pm
 dub
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BTW – I don’t believe in hell. The whole idea is (excuse the term) retarded.

I’m just playing Devils Advocate (pun intended!)

But I’ve thought hard about it… being a Jew supposedly I am not allowed in Heaven, so Hell is my only option.

C U in hell LOL


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Posted : 16/09/2013 4:19 pm
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Well, I suppose that’s the defining hinge of agnosticism, in that nobody knows "for sure", despite all claims to the contrary (yes, even my own).  I think the case is pretty much made for this one, though.

I have a keen sense for someone trying to perpetrate a guilt trip, and religion/hell/however you want to frame it just seems like the industrial-sized societal mack daddy mindfuck of all of them.  It’s got all the hallmarks, and the history to back it up.
Meh, I’ll take my chances.  If there is a god, that fucker’s got some ‘splainin’ to do when I get there anyway! :cigar

Either that, or it’ll all make sense to me by that point and I’ll be cool with it.  I’m far more open to the idea of "A" God, or at least some "other" form of afterlife rather than any of the organized concepts.  There’s just too many dogmatic contradictions and outright hypocrisy amongst the religions of the world.

By the same token, I think most of the psychonauts here have had at least enough of a taste of that "other" to have some pretty strong suspicions.  Maybe I’m wrong, but y’all haven’t ran me off as a blasphemer just yet. :biggrin

I’ve always found amusing the thought that there could be only like, one single church in a trailer in the middle of Nebraska with 6 members that actually has it "right" and everyone else is just damned. 😮
My apologies for derailing your thread, dub.  :weedpass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VREbXHIb5YY


 
Posted : 16/09/2013 6:07 pm
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