Dont blame the guns, the person, the bad security but blame the pills?

Interesting

I think the point is is there a correlation between folks on these types of drugs and violent behavior? Do these substances increase an individual’s want to be violent, etc. Since some are known to increase suicidal tendencies, then why not violent ones?

Not trying to remove blame from the individual or bad security, but is there a reason that folks that commit this type of crime all seem to be on similar drugs?

Guns are inanimate objects, however, so cannot blame them.

I keep saying it the Doctor is the new drug lord/dealer.  Are these pills that are prescribed schedule I drugs like my beloved weed is?  I don’t know about you but when I enjoy my schedule I drug of choice(weed) I don’t feel like killing anyone.  Shit I barely want to make a sandwich to control the munchies.

Shit I barely want to make a sandwich to control the munchies.

Don’t ever get between me and a sandwich or I will eat your face.

I keep saying it the Doctor is the new drug lord/dealer.  Are these pills that are prescribed schedule I drugs like my beloved weed is? 

Spot on, Swish. These are the really scary drugs.

What really concerns me is how easily they will prescribe these powerful substances. I used to think of psychiatrists in Freudian terms – you go sit on the couch, the good doc listens to you over several sessions to diagnose you, then perhaps a drug or two may come into play. The reality from what I’ve seen is far from that. I’ve personally gone with a relative to visit one of these folks, had about a 15-20 minute conversation, then the prescription pad comes out. I was shocked. We had never met this guy before, and he was dishing out the goods based on a key word or two he heard in a meet and greet. To make matters worse, his diagnosis was later proven to be incorrect by a psychologist that did take his time over a few sessions and some relevant testing.

If you look at one of the sites referenced in the article, http://ssristories.com/, this sort of thing is mentioned. I read one story where a female got off of an attempted murder charge because she was misdiagnosed – ‘ "Tang has bipolar disorder, which she sought help for when she first arrived at Wellesley in 2005. At that time, she was diagnosed with depression and was prescribed an antidepressant. However, as Tang’s psychopharmacologist Michael J. Mufson testified during the trial, bipolar disorder cannot be treated with antidepressants. Doing so creates oscillatory behavior ­ “It made her lows lower and her highs get higher”

Scary stuff.

I was on Citalopram for years and years (an SSRI)… 10 ml, then 20ml, then 40ml

I haven’t killed anybody (yet).

Got off them about 2 years ago (about the same time I started getting heavy into blends). Kinda weird now that I think of it.

I was on Citalopram for years and years (an SSRI)… 10 ml, then 20ml, then 40ml

I haven’t killed anybody (yet).

Got off them about 2 years ago (about the same time I started getting heavy into blends). Kinda weird now that I think of it.

Don’t think they’re trying to say that everyone doing SSRIs is destined to kill someone, but they may be the last thing needed to push those with a propensity to be violent over the edge. If someone is misdiagnosed, then that situation becomes even worse. Why is no one that is truly interested in preventing such events digging deeper to determine the true root cause of these events? It’s all about the guns to them, but the guns are simply tools, not the motivator. The were multiple warning signs for this guy; and, yet again, here we are.

This guy reported to police that he was hearing voices and people were sending bad ‘vibrations’ through the roof in his hotel rooms to get him. This was also reported to the Navy. Not sure what your experience with security clearances is, but that type of event should have triggered a security officer to question what was going on – quickly! You simply do not let a guy who is having trouble with invisible people hang around your secure facility. The Navy dropped the ball big time here!

The core message of all of this is – what good are laws and security protocols if you do not follow them? And what good will creating yet more laws do, with that in mind? This PC crap has got to stop if we are serious about stopping such things.

I got a friend whose meds were changed to an ssri, welbutrin  I think. Anyhow I have known this guy
for over 25 years and he is an entirely dif person on his new meds. I don’t even feel like I know him
anymore. After reading all this I’m just glad he doesn’t own a gun. I have been paying him to help out
around the place for many years but I feel like I’m not calling him again, he is just gotten tooo weird.
When I have called on him in the past, he generally worked 2 or more days in a row, but now I notice
he never wants to take a shower, he is always smelly as a result. He used to bring a change of clothes,
but in the last year he quit bothering to. He started changing his appearance, now even tho he is the only
white man in his neighborhood, he has shaved to look like some vato (illegal alien). I can’t guess what he
is thinking and he just seems very odd now.

Another interesting link on this topic – http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/21/antipsychotic-dementia-children/2844419/

‘It also says it’s questionable to use them as routine or first-choice treatments for:

• The behavioral and psychological symptoms of dementia. This is a common practice in nursing homes. But side effects can include confusion, sedation and hastened death.’

Yep, I would say ‘hastened death’ is a bitch of a side effect. But MJ is illegal/S1 – really?

Another interesting link on this topic – http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/21/antipsychotic-dementia-children/2844419/

‘It also says it’s questionable to use them as routine or first-choice treatments for:

• The behavioral and psychological symptoms of dementia. This is a common practice in nursing homes. But side effects can include confusion, sedation and hastened death.’

Yep, I would say ‘hastened death’ is a bitch of a side effect. But MJ is illegal/S1 – really?

Getting rid of old people is a real problem for the gov’t- Who wants them to live forever on social security
money that they earned by paying into the system for sooo long? You’ll have them smoking pot & breaking
old-age records. The Gov’t can’t afford to waste All of our money & pay for this crap also…

  You can often find another death hastener in nursing homes, morphine patches are known to be used
on troublesome bitchy oldsters to shut them up, err I mean calm them down. Just apply a few around your
selected big-mouthed oldster’s heart area, there that’ll shut em’ right up…

SSRI’s make me twitch severely. I can’t take them…