The kidney & liver experts were convinced I would have had renal failure or a stroke, had I not been wheeled into the
cardiac unit & given 4 dif blood pressure lowering drugs, at the time I was. So, No I didn’t actually suffer from renal failure. You can still
prolly meet up with the bodies of people who didn’t make it to the hospital in time tho, unlike myself. I also received 5 ekg’s in less than a 24hr period, I hope nobody thinks the hospital just puts people into the cardiac unit overnight for a cheap thrill (or an expensive one)

Did the docs have any thoughts on why it happened after stopping use instead of during?

Did the docs have any thoughts on why it happened after stopping use instead of during?

  The docs agreed that was why the chems involved are known as research chemicals & that
not much is therefore known about just exactly what they might do or why they do it.
But I did feel hot, way hotter than I have ever felt before (inside at least). I was very surprised
by how hot I felt throughout the whole ordeal especially when the nurse in the cardiac unit told
me the temp was only 72F after I kept complaigning that it was too damn hot in here.  The Dr’s from the
hospital also don’t think my blood pressure will ever go back down, only my regular Dr thinks my bp will one
day return to normal, at least without taking these meds.

                                                                                                      This unfortunate bullshit is just another reason to:

                                                          LEAGALIZE THE SACRED HERB!!!!! :joint :joint

From the mother’s txt msgs

10:48am They are putting a picc line in. She has pneumonia. She tested POS only for barbiturates, which is probably something in the synthetic. That’s all we know.

Jones not that our stories have anything to do with each other, but humbly I suggest similarities.
When i quit mj my BP shot up to 140 range upper, mid 90’s bottom I think. I gained 80 lbs in say 2, 3 months. My BP lowered eventually but not substantially until K2.

I think of how many sober relatively healthy ppl have panick attack levels of BP and are in their late 20’s. I work with a big stud jock that is on verge of stroke,… My brother is 8 yrs younger, is on meds.. .

Maybe we had mj/blends to lower our BP initially, even though it causes terrible rebound ceiling BP on cessation. Like I bet I’d be somewhat less healthy if I’d never started but if I quit I’ll b in the shitter again I’m afraid.

So let me get this straight jones….your blood pressure didnt go up until AFTER you were out of mb? The more you talk the less i understand you. How do you know dallas’ glitter didnt finally catch up to you? I know it sucks, but get off the pity pot and quit trying to blame mb………

*EG haters, prepare to lambast* lol

Might it be possible that certain unnamed cannibinoidal substances are actually reducing stress and blood pressure, effectively ‘masking’ an underlying condition, which resurfaces upon cessation of the off-label medication?  Said condition could then be amplified by WD anxiety, causing an apparent ‘spike’ in symptoms, which are then responded to with ‘classical’ medications?

Think of it like the ‘electric floor’ stress tests they perform on rats.  Said substance may be acting as an ‘off switch’, and then the proverbial rodent jumps twice as high when it’s switched back on.

This scenario would seem to fit all of the given data rather nicely…just sayin’…

For me its the chicken & the egg. I had mj daily way b4 I ever took my BP. So I’ll never know if it masked or caused WD. Betting some of both, after 20 years… Veins got used to it…

http://health.state.ga.us/pdfs/press/2013/News%20Release%20-%20Warning%20Potentially%20Deadly%20Herbal%20Incense.pdf

So let me get this straight jones….your blood pressure didnt go up until AFTER you were out of mb? The more you talk the less i understand you. How do you know dallas’ glitter didnt finally catch up to you? I know it sucks, but get off the pity pot and quit trying to blame mb………

  Well why don’t you tell me why on Friday when I had my Dr do his pre-surgery testing my BP was normal- That evening I used the last of my MB6X
When I arrived at the hospital for surgery on Monday my BP had DOUBLED. I had been using MidknightBlends for many months. If You all wanna think this occurred for lack of a tolerance break, or mebbe I just misplaced my lucky charm-Think what you will. There is only One Criminal-Scammer that I know of posting on this forum. BTW SCAMMER WHERE IS EVERYONE’S MONEY? & Why Didn’t You Tell The Other Folks You Ripped Off about YOUR Pitiful Excuse??
  And FWIW I have read plenty of posts on LHG that indicate MB knows very well that his main ingrediant 5FUr144 causes long term bad effects. Other
blendmakers stay away from 5F for that very reason.  You prolly think MB is innocent of any wrongdoing up to & including the theft of sooo many peoples
money. If MB is so innocent why didn’t he post about his false liar excuse on the LHG forum? Instead he let those people wonder just what was going on- for an additional month.
Until I posted there about him, then he poked his liar head up & Even then he never addressed the issue, he only wanted to speak with a prior chem salesman.
  Folks will believe what they want, I don’t have that option any longer. I have to believe in the few facts I have left to me.
  Anyhow as I have said previously, I stopped using Dallas blends when I started using MB’s 6X because Dallas’ stuff became too weak for me at that point.

Thanks for the info, Axa.

One thing that bothers me is the dearth of hard data, even from the Georgia DPH.

If there really is a ‘neurotoxin’ as they’re describing…why can’t they just name it?  This isn’t 1950…we have the technology to do this.

Surely with all of these reported incidences, a sample of *something* has been sent for GC/MS, EDS, or other quantitative analysis?

Even if these methods might not show the exact molecule, it should point to a likely suspect, which could then be teased out further chemically.

It seems to be a part of TPTB’s strategy to push us further and further into unknown (and thereby inherently riskier) territory by swinging the banhammer on relatively safe ‘knowns’, to the point where bad things will become inevitable by the progression to ‘unknowns’.  Then, when that happens, they just throw the blanket over all of it and go "See? See?  We told you!".  :-

I’m just waiting to see on CNN that Assad really hit Aleppo with a giant ‘gas station blend bomb’ instead of Sarin…  :wacked:

http://health.state.ga.us/pdfs/press/2013/News%20Release%20-%20Warning%20Potentially%20Deadly%20Herbal%20Incense.pdf

Fucking hell !

Nuerotoxin? Life threatening symptoms…

That’s scary shit.

Black Mamba was one that i personally used to smoke, albeit a while ago.

Stay safe peeps, only buy from trusted vendors !

Thanks for the info, Axa.

One thing that bothers me is the dearth of hard data, even from the Georgia DPH.

If there really is a ‘neurotoxin’ as they’re describing…why can’t they just name it?  This isn’t 1950…we have the technology to do this.

Surely with all of these reported incidences, a sample of *something* has been sent for GC/MS, EDS, or other quantitative analysis?

Even if these methods might not show the exact molecule, it should point to a likely suspect, which could then be teased out further chemically.

It seems to be a part of TPTB’s strategy to push us further and further into unknown (and thereby inherently riskier) territory by swinging the banhammer on relatively safe ‘knowns’, to the point where bad things will become inevitable by the progression to ‘unknowns’.  Then, when that happens, they just throw the blanket over all of it and go "See? See?  We told you!".  :-

I’m just waiting to see on CNN that Assad really hit Aleppo with a giant ‘gas station blend bomb’ instead of Sarin…  :wacked:

The CDC is involved now, give them a few days to analyse and present findings. They usually post at the end of the week here: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/

I don’t understand what the hell could be in these things that make people that sick?

We all know it’s not the synthetic cannabinoids… at most they are gonna make you freak out, and by the time you end up in the ER you are feeling better.

But what would put someone on life support? Or what would mess up your breathing so bad that you had to be hospitalized? Some kind of cut? Bad synthesis?

    I can’t imagine, but then when my health was affected by MB’s blend most of what I heard was
  You can’t blame the spice or the maker. I guess the cops didn’t read that part.

Sounds like some more of the following drivel
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Blend Vendors / Re: Former Midknight Blends Customers Please Read
« on: August 12, 2013, 11:38:51 PM »
I disagree with everyone I have yet read.
  Firstly three days after I ran out of my Midknight Blends 6X my blood pressure Doubled.
There are folks on spiced who hate Dallas, but after using his products for two years I never
had a problem of any sort, yet he was banned for supposedly selling a bag containing a material
banned in England. How the fuck that affects anyone on here, I will never be able to guess.
  Instead MB is welcomed here with open arms & here he is whining about his monetary
difficulties. Do you have any idea what it costs to have a trip into the cardiac unit for 24 hours?
I guarantee it makes Your monetary troubles look TINY. If anyone should be perm banned
from this forum it should be Midknight Blends seller of Death. BTW Your Karmic troubles are
just beginning, there is at least one other forum full of folks who would Love to get your contact
info just so’s they can "pay it forward" you incredible POS. In parting let me wish that You get
each & every thing that You have coming, not just for poisoning myself, but also for all the other
folks who You have poisoned."

Are you still trying to pin your poor dietary/recreational choices on someone else? I suppose Richard Pryor should blame the guy who supplied the coke that he used to freebase and catch his ass on fire!? Grow up, no one is responsible for the uneducated choices you make in life.

  I was simply recounting the events that occurred up till my blood pressure DOUBLED
BTW If the shoe fits Wear It– SCAMMER

I think MB is just upset cause I told the folks at LHG about his weakass sob story

You should tell the popo when they come to take your sour ass down how You aren’t responsible for anyone using your
product and becoming ill. I bet they will just take those handcuffs right off when they hear you spout your BS  :hammertime: