Felt opiated for sure and took a quarter of recommend dose. I imagine those without a taste for opiates might not recognize the "high". It might take them a few trials and not all like opiate "high" takes a certain personality!

^– I am glad I showed you the way of  Kratom spicemonkey!  This guy is awesome for real…a random traveler I met at the place I play trivia every wednesday night.  We ended up hanging out a bit before he went back west….blazed like a beast.  I broke out the kratom and showed hom what it does.  Also note the first time spicemonkey was ever blended was via me. He was like man I have like a billion thoughts at once! LOL Then we smoked more dank and my day was complete.  One day I will make it out west to chill…also introduce yourself in the introduction thread spicemonkey! PEACE!

-Wolf

Kratom ruined my night last weekend. Seems like I don’t take enough and feel nothing, and take too much and have an awful night lmao.

Screw you kratom! Maybe I need to find the right strain….  ??? ???

^– I am glad I showed you the way of  Kratom spicemonkey!  This guy is awesome for real…a random traveler I met at the place I play trivia every wednesday night.  We ended up hanging out a bit before he went back west….blazed like a beast.  I broke out the kratom and showed hom what it does.  Also note the first time spicemonkey was ever blended was via me. He was like man I have like a billion thoughts at once! LOL Then we smoked more dank and my day was complete.  One day I will make it out west to chill…also introduce yourself in the introduction thread spicemonkey! PEACE!

-Wolf

That was awesome!

I only liked the ultra extracts.  There are several sources for these (LHS is actually one source) and you only need a gram or so (2 caps) to really engage your kappa opiod receptors and keep them engaged for a few hours. 

Pure 50x Kratom extract:
http://www.mdairesearch.com/products/kratom/

You need to get the more expensive kind.

Pure 50x Kratom extract:
http://www.mdairesearch.com/products/kratom/

I can vouch for this company.  However try LHS for the ultra stuff: http://www.legalherbalshop.com/Ultra_Enhanced_Maeng_Da_Caps-details.aspx   There are several other places to get things like this, but I like only needing 2 caps.  It is a lot easier on one’s gut.

Wow, you must have some serious tolerance… 3 gs of powdered leaf is plenty enough for me for good effects- toss and wash. Deep Jungle Kratom or Speciosa Specialties, KCats, – Green Thai or Malaysian. Extracts way too expensive and leads to quick tolerance build-up. Not to mention might possibly be overwhelming  as in feel mighty sick if you don’t test amounts first…. I hear about people needing lots of this stuff for effect but have not had to do that providing the source is good. I can’t go over 5 g crushed leaf without going from very pleasant to un-well. YMMV but hopefully no one is accidentally mislead into thinking they need massive amounts without testing.

I’m pretty sure I have that Keith Richards gene. I’ve done some serious shit in my day and always made it through well. I think it has caught up to me.

I thought the same thing SQ about Kratom. Thought I needed quite a bit to feel something since I had a few attempts that brought on nothing but me wondering if I took enough… THEN, I went ahead and doubted this one strain, and took over 6 grams I believe (may have said it in another thread, I actually don’t remember) and had a hell of a night. What I mean by a hell of a night, I mean think of a night in hell. That was my night. Sick as fuck after getting the wobblies for a couple hours. Not so much fun as it was annoying TBH. But then again, I never have enjoyed a good opioid. Well, opium, does that count?

I’m thinking YMMV, and strains play a big part in the ‘buzz’ you receive. I’ve got a few more kinds to try, but damn that night awful so they may gather some dust until I’m out of other goodies… May be a while :banana:

I think everyone has to find out for themselves if kratom is a drug of choice for them.  Personally, I don’t like the nausea and itch from kratom and some varieties are speedy for me and I am not a speedy afficianado.  That being said, however, the ultra extracts have been very reliable for me and I found them to be very opiate-like .  I can see where kratom would be useful for some people as an aid to ween oneself off of an opiate addiction. 

It is not opium to be sure, but there are definite aspects/effects which are similar.

From what i have personally experienced and what i have read it seems that to find your sweet spot with kratom it takes a bit of trial and error. I have bought from vendors that everyone else said had great product and got no effects at all no matter the dosage. On the flip side of that, i have bought plain ole leaf and had great experiences. I would caution those new to kratom or those unfamiliar with it to go with plain leaf over an extract for their first time. The extracts can easily lead to an unpleasant experience if you take too much. Also, alot of the capsules on the market Roxxys, Capt. Kratom etc. are way overpriced and from the reviews ive seen they dont seem to use quality leaf.

And just a head’s up to the kratom lovers, right now Indonesia has halted the export of kratom. It is said that 95% of the world’s kratom comes from this region. If you use regularly, especially Indo strains or Bali, now would be a good time to stock up as prices will go up as the product disappears. Several of my fave vendors already are limiting orders as they cant resupply easily.

Dang DIMEBAG thanks for the KRATOM INFO. I have powder, Extract and leaf on my site!

But with info that your giving, I am going to try not only to order more of every KRATOM strain I can pay for,
I am also going to go ahead and buy at least 4 plants

Thanks Dime BAG! I am a Kratom Lover, And I too, love the leaf! I like the leaf more than any other type of KRATOM!

Wow, if this is the case, To non Forum members I can charge more! If it becomes this obsolete, then I have a gold mine in my storage unit ! ha ha!

Dang DIMEBAG thanks for the KRATOM INFO. I have powder, Extract and leaf on my site!

But with info that your giving, I am going to try not only to order more of every KRATOM strain I can pay for,
I am also going to go ahead and buy at least 4 plants

Thanks Dime BAG! I am a Kratom Lover, And I too, love the leaf! I like the leaf more than any other type of KRATOM!

Wow, if this is the case, To non Forum members I can charge more! If it becomes this obsolete, then I have a gold mine in my storage unit ! ha ha!

LOL! Your storage unit may indeed become a gold mine my friend. I just bought a huge order to add to my medicine cabinet just in case they dont lift the export restrictions. Good luck with the plants bro, from what ive heard try to get the "bumblebee" strain if you can. They are supposed to be one of the easier plants to mantain of whats available.

Finding the right dose for yourself with  kratom can be pretty tricky. People seem to react quite differently to the same dose of the same type of kratom. For me, Maeng Da kratom doesn’t do anything. I have tried it from several different vendors and it has always been a no go. For me, straight 10x, 15x, 20x, and so on potency extracts will make me a little warm and fuzzy, but the effect isn’t as well-rounded and powerful as when I just do a toss and wash of good Thai or Bali at the right dose. When it comes to plain leaf, I am pretty sensitive to that, too: 2 to 3 level teaspoons of Bali or Thai are my sweet spot. 1 teaspoon in the morning of either with coffee really wakes me up and gets me energized. 2 to 3 teaspoons is more of a semi up and semi chill/warm and fuzzy feeling. Any more than 3 teaspoons and it’s quite possible that I will get very sick, dizzy, sweat bullets, have hot and cold flashes, get hiccups (always with the fucking hiccups when I overdo it with kratom), then vomit and then dry heave when my stomach is empty from vomiting. NOT FUN.

Some people can take way, way, way more than I can and have a blast without ever getting sick.

Bali and Thai are always the safest bet for people because almost everyone gets some type of decent effect from them. It’s always important to take kratom, extract or whole leaf of extract enhanced, on an empty stomach (wait 2 or 3 hours after your last meal) and give it up to an hour to kick in.

The stuff that always gives me the absolute best effect is Gold Reserve enhanced kratom. A little bit of that stuff goes a long, long way. With low or no tolerance 1 teaspoon is enough, and 2 teaspoons is just this crazy warm, fuzzy, chill, upbeat feeling. Downside to extract or kratom that’s enhanced with extract is that your tolerance goes sky high very quickly so it’s got to be a once-in-a-while treat, maybe once a week or once every other week if you want to get your money’s worth out of it.

It doesn’t really seem to matter where you get your kratom from since kratom only comes from a very small pool of sources anyway.