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Nano White Maeng Da

KratomToke — Tue, 02 Sep 2025 21:52:16 +0000

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Kratom Vendor: Kratom Roots

Kratom Type: Nano White MD Kratom powder

Method of Consumption: Mixed with yogurt

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Activation Time×: 18-20 Minutes

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✓ Woke me up quickly
✓ Strong but.. White Bentuangie is better IMO
✓ Quick onset
✓ Lasts awhile
✓ Price not too bad at $20 for 120 Grams

Overall Rating:

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✓ Energy 8!10
✓ Onset Time 09/10
✓ MIX ABILITY 10/10
✓ Very good. White Bentuangie is better

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TrainWreck Nano Kratom

KratomToke — Wed, 27 Aug 2025 21:19:10 +0000

Kratom Brand: Kratom Roots

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Kratom Strain: TrainWreck

Type of Kratom Nano Kratom

Method of Consumption: 1 teaspoon in yogurt

Time for onset of effects : Sixteen Minutes

Type of beginning effects:

*** FOCUS IS WAY UP
*** ENERGY LIFT MEDIUM STRENGTH
*** MOOD LIFT IS WAY UP
*** PAIN RELIEF IS GOOD MEDIUM STRENGTH

Compared to Extract:

*** ONSET ALMOST AS FAST AS EXTRACT
™** EFFECTS STRONGER THAN POWDER
*** NOT AS STRONG AS EXTRACT
*** MIX ABILITY : EXCELLENT
*** LENGTH OF EFFECTS LONGER THAN POWDER
*** COMPARED TO EXTRACT
*** ALMOST AS LONG AS AN EXTRACT

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Over all Ratings

✓ POTENCY: 8.5/10
✓ MIX ABILITY 10/10
✓ PRICE VALUE 7.75/10

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Green Elephant Kratom

KratomToke — Mon, 10 Mar 2025 18:49:16 +0000

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Vendor: The Kratom King

Kratom strain: Green Elephant

1 Ounce price: $6.50

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Method of consumption Kratom powder Tea

Amount Used in Tea 1.25 level tablespoons

Experience:

¤¤ 15 Minute Onset
¤¤ Feeling a major mood lift
¤¤ 25 Minutes -- Energy going up
¤¤ 30 Minutes; Euphoria Bigtime
¤¤ 45 Minutes -- Happy Happy Happy

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Overall rating:

☆☆☆ Mood Lift 10 ++++ ☆☆☆
☆☆☆ Energy 8/10 ☆☆☆
☆☆☆ Pain Relief 6.0/10 ☆☆☆
☆☆☆ Duration of effects 9/10 ☆☆☆

NOTE:

This Green Elephant kratom is the best
Mood lift I have ever had on kratom
Since 01 09 2006.

The first time I used kratom
January 09, 2006

This does help some with pain relief sort of. Energy is decent.

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Kratom Efficiency vs. Pharms Experience

orthene — Wed, 11 Dec 2024 23:39:36 +0000

So my other half had biopsy on Monday and I helped her take out the stent. And holy crap the thing was about a foot long. The morning started out painful, and slowly but steadily increasing in intensity.

First, went with the extra strength Tylenol, later naproxen gelcaps, even later 5 mg hydrocodone prescribed for breakthru pain. She's at the point where I'm saying Emergency Room? and she's saying No they'll shoot me with fentanyl, bill me ninety bucks, and eight hours later then what?

I talked her into trying some super red kratom, provided I put them in gelcaps. I crammed one tsp kratom into 5 vegetable gelcaps.

11pm One tsp ingested orally

11:55pm Still in severe pain with a hot pack on the kidney area. I suggested the veggie caps may take a bit longer than my toss n wash results.

12:05am She sits up and says Oh my gosh. My pain stopped abruptly! Not tapered off, not diminished, just gone.

12:25am She hasn't eaten all day from kidney pain, but she's up cooking food.

Well, shit. Take my money. Glad I saved those gelcaps cuz I don't use em. I should add, that was a lifesaver as we both quit cigarettes about a month ago. I was almost tempted to run out and buy a pack. I worked hard to get the cig smell off all hard surfaces and carpet in the house though; not going back to it.

Mixed Maeng Da By Mit Therapy

KratomToke — Mon, 23 Sep 2024 21:46:53 +0000

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Kratom Brand: Mit Therapy

Kratom Strain: Mixed Maeng Da

Price for 120 Grams $22.99

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Note: This is Kratom powder with light extract

Method of Ingestion: Made into a tea

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Amount Used in Tea Two Level Teaspoons

Time for strong effects About 18 minutes

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Note: Very bitter Tea. I used lemon juice in the tea

Type of Effects:

▪︎▪︎ Mind very awake
▪︎▪︎ Pain gone in 30 Minutes
▪︎▪︎ A very pronounced mood lift
▪︎▪︎ Used a small amount > Strong effects

Rating: 10/10

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Kratom Shots Recipe?

orthene — Thu, 08 Dec 2022 19:50:41 +0000

I saw this recipe online today; questions to follow.

"Kratom shot recipe.
Before making the shot, you must first get your ingredients. Coconut milk is easy enough to find- go down the dairy aisle at any grocery store! The powder and amino acid can be bought online, but if you’re in an area without access to these ingredients, it’s best to purchase them at a local health food store.

To make the shot:

Add 1 part coconut milk into a small bowl or cup
Add 1 part honey (1 teaspoon)
Add 1 part cinnamon powder (1 teaspoon)
Add 1 part ginger powder (1 teaspoon)
Add 1 part turmeric powder (1 teaspoon). It will give you 4 tablespoons of a complete recipe for kratom shots gold living up to their hype."

What stands out to me in this recipe is the lack of Kratom lol. I guess it is assumed that you know it must be added, but how much? Maybe it's just "1 part (1 teaspoon)" Maybe adding more than 1 part would cause the shot to be excessively thick. My regular dose for my toss 'n wash is four teaspoons. In that case I would quadruple the recipe I suppose.

Kratom users: Have you tried making Kratom shots?
If yes, how is the taste?
Does turmeric powder potentiate kratom in any way? I've heard it is overwhelmingly earthy and bitter.
Some sites mention that when making kratom tea, you are losing much of the kratom in the wet powder that gets tossed in the bin.
Pros, cons, opinions?

Ascension Parish Council votes to ban the sale of controversial product kratom

orthene — Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:30:42 +0000

https://www.wafb.com/2022/08/23/ascension-parish-council-votes-ban-sale-controversial-product-kratom/

ASCENSION PARISH, La. (WAFB) - Ascension Parish will become the first parish in Louisiana to ban the sale of the controversial herbal supplement kratom.

The Ascension Parish Council unanimously voted to prohibit the sale of kratom during their meeting on Aug. 18.

Councilman Michael Mason says the original proposal included restrictions on possessions and use, but they decided to only focus on sales.

“Not a single person in Ascension Parish spoke in favor of Kratom,” Mason said.

According to the Department of Justice & Drug Enforcement Administration, kratom is an herbal substance that can be taken as a pill, powder or brewed as a tea.

Supporters of the product say its commonly used to treat pain or serve as an alternative to using opioids. However, opponents argue that its highly addictive and dangerous.

Mac Haddow from the American Kratom Association disputed that narrative.

“Kratom does not have the addiction liability, nor does it pose a health risk to the American people. There are more than 15 million Kratom consumers in America today, and when safely consumed, the non-adulterated product is a great alternative to people managing their health and well-being,” Haddow said.

Mason also chimed in.

“I noticed that people who were pro-kratom would show up to all the meetings and say the same thing. ‘In its purest form, it does a lot of great good’. Which, I’m sure it does. We’re not arguing that fact, but what we’re saying we have in Ascension Parish is obviously not its purest form,” Mason said.

Mason says the ordinance goes into effect on Aug. 28. Under the new rule, anyone that’s caught selling kratom could lose their business license. Also, repeat offenders could face a fine or possibly face jail time.

Mason says he supports a ban until the state or federal government decides to regulate it.

“We did put in that caveat that if further research becomes available and some regulation happens with Kratom that we can get the pure form and make sure that it’s not tainted with formaldehyde which are some of the things that were coming through and all this other stuff, then we would be glad to revisit this, but this is just something to protect our people right now,” Mason said. Until then, Haddow says the fight is not over.

“We’re hopefully going to get them to reconsider their ordinance so they can control the adulterated kratom products because we know the health benefits of natural Kratom, unadulterated is really beneficial to the population,” Haddow said. “They say that Ascension Parish is the thought leader of all policies that other parishes and that the state of Louisiana follows. If they truly believe that then they should’ve listened to the non-Ascension Parish residents that came and spoke.”

>:( >:( I've searched and can find no instances of kratom being adulterated with formaldehyde; is there something I should know?

Blate Papes?

orthene — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 23:25:20 +0000

Any kratom users heard of this? Edible film squares (made out of potato starch) that hold your kratom; cover, then dip in water to make a seal, and swallow with a glass of water. Can hold the contents equivalent to ten 000 gelatin capsules. I think Blate Papes is a trademark name, and they are called oblate paper, oblate pouches, etc. It's probably something that's been around awhile but first I see of it. Might beat toss'n'wash if for no other reason than the bitter taste.

The flat type can lay on top of your digi scale so you can get an accurate dose. Other ones are cone shaped.

Pretty cool.

The push behind kratom legislation!

orthene — Wed, 03 Aug 2022 21:15:39 +0000

https://urbanasian.com/lifestyle/2022/08/the-push-behind-kratom-legislation/

Kratom has become an increasingly popular alternative medicine, but the DEA has been a persistent obstacle. While authorities put Denver’s ban on Kratom on hold due to public pressure, the American Kratom Association is battling back in the form of political persuasion. The AKA has successfully persuaded the DEA to reschedule Kratom, and Florida is now considering a similar ban.

Denver’s kratom ban on hold

The Department of Public Health and Environment has temporarily decided to put Denver’s kratom ban on hold. The state’s drug control agency had banned the sale of Kratom for public consumption but has now taken the ban off hold, pending the outcome of a bill. Denver first implemented the ban in 2017.

But it hasn’t all been good news for kratom lovers. Several Colorado cities have prohibited using Kratom, including Castle Rock, Monument, and Denver. The American Kratom Association has done an excellent job advocating for the plant, and it hopes the state will overturn the ban soon. And as of now, there are a few stumbling blocks for those who want to use Kratom in Denver.

American Kratom Association’s political persuasion

The American Kratom Association has long been concerned with encroaching federal laws to protect the health and safety of consumers, and the DEA is no different. The DEA’s controversial scheduling decisions have put the substance on a high-risk list, and it could result in steep punishments for those who buy, use, or possess it. The DEA has also threatened to ban any modified form of the drug, and states such as Oregon and Washington have already decriminalized small amounts. But the AKA and other advocates are not giving up hope. They’re stepping up their fight and getting donations to fight the DEA’s ban.

This recent ban is an extreme example of how the DEA wants to impose its agenda on a product never deemed a threat to society. The DEA can temporarily schedule substances, and their findings must be scientifically sound to justify immediate regulatory action. In the case of Kratom, this means the FDA was relying on flawed and inaccurate research.

DEA’s decision to reschedule Kratom

The US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) put a hold on its decision to reschedule Kratom this week. The agency decided on a power that is rarely used, but the agency did not provide the public with enough notice. The DEA decided after 51 members of Congress sent a letter to the agency questioning the DEA’s actions. The DEA has yet to release a statement explaining its decision and has said it will continue to solicit public input before making a final decision.

The FDA’s decision to reschedule Kratom is controversial in several ways. The agency did not disclose the letter recommending its scheduling, which led to a misunderstanding among policymakers, the media, and kratom consumers. Because of this, six states and local governments have banned kratom sales. These bans have been mainly based on DEA claims.

Florida’s ban on Kratom

The ban on Kratom in Florida is likely dead after the Senate Appropriations Committee fails to hold a hearing. A similar bill, filed by Pensacola Republican Rep. Alex Andrade, did not get a hearing either. Neither of the accounts had unanimous support, and a woman’s interruption caused the hearing to end prematurely. Representative Kristin Jacobs, a conservative, is opposed to the drug.

A recent ad hoc task force lobbied for the state to ban Kratom. However, the St. Johns County Commissioners discussed the ban. At this meeting, kratom users explained the herb’s health benefits, and the commissioners decided not to ban it. As a result, Kratom remains legal in St. Johns County.

Federal Agency Explores Benefits Of The ‘Controversial Tree’ Kratom

orthene — Mon, 02 May 2022 20:03:02 +0000

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/federal-agency-explores-benefits-of-the-controversial-tree-kratom/

A top federal health agency hosted a meeting last week to explore the therapeutic potential of a “controversial tree” commonly known as kratom, which supporters say has pain relieving qualities and can be used as a substitute for opioids.

As part of a lecture series, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) invited University of Florida researcher Christopher McCurdy to provide an overview of the science of kratom and what role it could play in mitigating the overdose crisis.

McCurdy, who previously served as the director of an NIH research center, titled his lecture, “Can a Controversial Tree Help End the Opioid Crisis?” He went into detail about anecdotal experience and clinical research, explaining how there’s promising evidence that kratom could help alleviate pain, reduce withdrawal symptoms from opioids and lower dependence on methamphetamine, for example.

After reviewing the origin and pharmacology of kratom, a plant that grows in Southeast Asia, McCurdy said that the substance is “used informally to reduce opioid use,” noting that “kratom withdrawal is mild.”

“Poly-drug users report kratom may reduce methamphetamine use,” he said.

But the scientist explained that the “biggest problem” in researching kratom is that there’s currently a lack of standardization “to really get into clinical trials and evaluate any of these therapeutic potentials.”

Like other plant-based therapeutics such as marijuana, kratom in its natural form contains multiple compounds of varying concentrations, and people administer it in different ways—from teas to capsules.

McCurdy also talked about a unique feature of kratom: it seems that, in lower doses, the substances creates a stimulant-like effect, whereas higher doses are associated with an opioid-like effect. One reason that people are eager to research kratom is because even though it can act similarly to opioids, it doesn’t appear to cause dangerous respiratory depression, which is the reason behind many opioid overdose deaths.

While he recognized that some people may be attracted to the product for recreational use, he said that the “legitimate users of this will fight to their death to keep it legal because it’s been revolutionary for them.”

To that end, advocates in the U.S. have been putting up a fight to ensure that regulators don’t designate kratom as a controlled substance. And so far, they’ve been successful.

On the international level, the United Nations World Health Organization (WHO) decided last year not to recommend that kratom be globally prohibited in a victory for activists.

While the decision was based on a scientific review of the risk of dependence, abuse potential and therapeutic applications of kratom, advocates touted the fact that about 80,000 people submitted comments to the panel, sharing their perspectives and experiences with the plant-derived substance.

As it stands, kratom is not scheduled under the federal Controlled Substances Act or under international drug treaties to which the U.S. is a party. FDA has considered putting restrictions on the substance, but it’s has faced resistance and has been unable to do so at this point.

Some advocates suspected that, since the agency hasn’t imposed a ban on kratom domestically, it would use the WHO convention as an opportunity to get prohibition enacted internationally, a move that the country would be compelled to comply with.

A bipartisan and bicameral duo of congressional lawmakers sent a letter to the secretary of the U.S. Department Health and Human Services and the country’s UN ambassador last year, imploring the officials to resist efforts to impose an international ban on kratom.

As federal agencies have gone back and forth about the merits of scheduling kratom over recent years, there’s been “no conclusive evidence that would warrant the United States voting in favor of an international control of this substance,” the lawmakers said.

Separately, the House Appropriations Committee approved a report to spending legislation last year that says federal health agencies have “contributed to the continued understanding of the health impacts of kratom, including its constituent compounds, mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine.”

“The Committee is aware of the potential promising results of kratom for acute and chronic pain patients who seek safer alternatives to sometimes dangerously addictive and potentially deadly prescription opioids and of research investigating the use of kratom’s constituent compounds for opioid use disorder,” it said.

The panel also directed the Health and Human Services secretary to continue to refrain from recommending that kratom be controlled in Schedule I.

In 2020, the federal Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality (AHRQ) asked the public to help identify research that specifically looks at the risks and benefits of cannabinoids and kratom.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in 2020 separately received more than one thousand comments concerning kratom as part of another public solicitation.

McCurdy, for his part, said in last week’s presentation hosted by NIH”s National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health that he hoped to lead a follow-up event in the next couple of years because he’s “aware of and participating in a few other trials that are going on in Canada, as well as one funded by the that will be started sometime this year.”

Those initiatives are focusing on “human safety and pharmacokinetics,” he said.