oh shit. well this means that the light at the end of the damn tunnel is just a flashlight on a shotgun. bummer. :-[

oh shit. well this means that the light at the end of the damn tunnel is just a flashlight on a shotgun. bummer. :-[

Fleshlight at the end of the tunnel would be even better than this shit.
Can you imagine what an owner would be thinking when getting ran through by the feds in a legal state?
I can’t.

no, I can’t either. scary times, no joke

Technically MJ is a federal felony to have, so the feds aren’t breaking any laws.
Just because the states decide that something is legal doesn’t end the federal
jurisdiction on it. Companies that stay small will have less to worry about, as the
feds likely won’t bother if the money isn’t there.
Same thing has been going on in Kali as well, for the richer companies, as they
have enough $$$ to entice a federal bust…

Technically MJ is a federal felony to have, so the feds aren’t breaking any laws.
Just because the states decide that something is legal doesn’t end the federal
jurisdiction on it. Companies that stay small will have less to worry about, as the
feds likely won’t bother if the money isn’t there.
Same thing has been going on in Kali as well, for the richer companies, as they
have enough $$$ to entice a federal bust…

I mean I completely understand how it happened by federal law and such, but ummmmmm how is something not odd here? (I know, it happens all the time :()
For one, why the hell do state laws even come about that disregard federal laws?
For two, why the hell once it is ruled a law, how is it just so easily betrayed by big bro?
WHAT THE FUCK AMERICA.

Small scale, but Dad letting you stay out until midnight and when you get home get grounded by your mother for staying out past 9…

Technically MJ is a federal felony to have, so the feds aren’t breaking any laws.
Just because the states decide that something is legal doesn’t end the federal
jurisdiction on it. Companies that stay small will have less to worry about, as the
feds likely won’t bother if the money isn’t there.
Same thing has been going on in Kali as well, for the richer companies, as they
have enough $$$ to entice a federal bust…

One of the busts was for a total of $2500.00 including all stock. Staying small doesn’t help. How much smaller can you be?

Technically MJ is a federal felony to have, so the feds aren’t breaking any laws.
Just because the states decide that something is legal doesn’t end the federal
jurisdiction on it. Companies that stay small will have less to worry about, as the
feds likely won’t bother if the money isn’t there.
Same thing has been going on in Kali as well, for the richer companies, as they
have enough $$$ to entice a federal bust…

One of the busts was for a total of $2500.00 including all stock. Staying small doesn’t help. How much smaller can you be?

That is a bitch,
  I suppose the feds won’t just throw it back if they find out
they got a lil’ fish
  This whole medical MJ thing has had me paranoid since it began,
          I would qualify if I desired to have the feds & the state know to put me on their radar.
                  Same reason I have been against a federal concealed carry list too, I just
                            can’t trust all the folks who would have access to that info.
Prolly too L8 for me & many others, who have admitted to their Dr. years ago that they did use,
  As all medical documents are being sent to washington, thanks to Obama Care.
        Anyone with a record of PTSD better hide that gun collection very well,
Bloomberg just rescinded every new yorker’s concealed carry card, for folks who had a record
of ever having PTSD…. I actually predicted that back when Obamacare began, years ago.
 
  So folks, for the recap- Even if you are currently sufferring from a mental illness, If you ever have it
properly diagnosed by a medical professional, Your gun rights will dry up & blow away (as your name
will be added to the FBI’s Denial List. Ditto for Medical Marijuana card holders, soon as possible, your
right to own a gun will also evaporate. Of course the feds will first hafta approve the Medical Marijuana
program, in order to get the names on their list,  :ineeddrugs    But Keep it on the DL

:goodpost Land of the free, if the money is right. They can all suck it. Hold your mouth around this until your face turns blue. Just legalize  it you stupid fuckers.

Land of the free, and home of depraved. ..

Way I see it, it’ll be up to the sheriff,
  as I understand it, the sheriff in a given county can kick the feds out of his county, if he so desires.
Just don’t seem to be many LE who want medical marijuana

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/feds-raid-wa-medical-pot-dispensaries-could-more-regs-save-coming-legal-market?paging=off

July 25, 2013
On Wednesday, federal agents from the Drug Enforcement Agency raided several marijuana dispensaries in Washington’s Puget Sound region. It’s tempting to interpret the crackdown as a threat to state-sanctioned legalization for adults older than 21. Nonetheless, activists and experts on the ground tell AlterNet that while it’s too early to make a judgement, it appears likely that the dispensaries targeted may have been violating state, not just federal law. Moreover, strict regulations embedded in Washington’s more sweeping legalization model (and absent from its medical policy) may protect the state from federal intervention once the pot shops open up.

The Daily Chronic reported that as many as 18 dispensaries were raided, but AlterNet has confirmed with US attorneys that only four (Seattle Cross, Tacoma Cross,  Bayside Collective, and Key Peninsula Cross) were served warrants. The raid has also been described as the result of a reported two-year investigation, and the four dispensaries busted were also targeted by a 2011 raid. A spokesperson for the US attorneys’ office for Western Washington told AlterNet these four distributors had not been officially prosecuted, but "on notice" ever since.

In 2011, the federal search warrant affidavit including these four dispensaries alleged that the businesses were involved in large-scale distribution to non-medical marijuana patients.

"[T]he allegations brought by the federal government suggest individuals are involved in activities that fall out of both the letter and the spirit of our state law," said Alison Holcomb, the architect of the legalization bill I-502 and director of the Criminal Justice Project at ACLU of Washington. Holcomb added, "So they were allegedly breaking state law, not only federal law."

Dominic Holden, a local reporter on the marijuana policy beat, also appeared to suspect foul play. Holden wrote in Seattle’s The Stranger that, because, "There are plenty of cases of people running ‘medical cannabis co-ops’ who get busted because they are running for-profit operations that have nothing to do with medical pot," he wants to see court documents before making "an armchair verdict on today’s dispensary raids."

Regardless, Washington’s coming marijuana market may not face the same federal scrutiny as its medical marijuana model. While recreational legalization appears to more blatantly contradict federal prohibition, strong, central regulation appears to protect against federal interference. Because Washington’s recreational model includes tight rules and oversight, feds may be more reluctant to raid those businesses than less regulated dispensaries.

As Marijuana Policy Project, the Drug Policy Alliance, and Allison Holcomb pointed out to AlterNet, medical marijuana states with looser regulatory schemes, like California and Montana, have been more prone to federal raids than states like Colorado and New Mexico, where regulations are tighter. Washington’s legalization amendment, however, sets up a strict (some have even criticized it for being too strict) system of oversight.

"Washington is in an interesting situation," said DPA’s marijuana policy expert, Amanda Reiman, "They have legalized adult use of marijuana, which the feds have remained fairly silent on, and they also have medical marijuana."

"But, like California, [Washington medical marijuana law] stops short at state involvement in licensing cultivation and dispensing."

Reiman said that while she believes the Obama administration, "or whoever is calling for these raids," may make decisions influenced by how involved, or not, the state is involved in marijuana regulation.

"Part of the reason for this is because when localities have complaints about medical marijuana businesses and the state is not involved, the complaints are usually going to the U.S. attorneys in those states, which triggers federal involvement," said Reiman.

"In California, there are no statewide regulations or even local regulations regarding standards for production, standards for transportation of product, quality control, and other important guidelines," said Holcomb. She thinks a state agency tasked with controlling marijuana is the most effective method.

"The problem is that that is an environment where people who are willing to break rules are at a competitive advantage," said Holcomb. "It also creates uncertainty within the communities."

Like Reiman, Holcomb said, "What we frequently see is that law enforcement responds to community complaints," particularly businesses pushing the envelope and "creating a sense of lawlessness," which incites nervousness in neighbors who "invite systemic raids to tamp down on the industry."

Holcomb said Washington’s legalization initiative was very influenced by this observation. "We knew it would be important to not only have very clear regulations, but uniform throughout the state," That way, she says, marijuana distributors can easily "understand standards for business to be conducted."

A spokesperson for the Western Washington US Attorney’s Office told AlterNet their policy in regards to recreational legalization will be determined by the Department of Justice, while their medical marijuana priorities — which the office claims to have established itself — is to target businesses that appear to be acting as large-scale, illegal drug traffickers.

It is too early to say for sure whether the dispensaries busted were disregarding state law, but marijuana legalization advocates do not appear to be sweating its implications for more sweeping legalization just yet.

Technically MJ is a federal felony to have, so the feds aren’t breaking any laws.
Just because the states decide that something is legal doesn’t end the federal
jurisdiction on it. Companies that stay small will have less to worry about, as the
feds likely won’t bother if the money isn’t there.
Same thing has been going on in Kali as well, for the richer companies, as they
have enough $$$ to entice a federal bust…

One of the busts was for a total of $2500.00 including all stock. Staying small doesn’t help. How much smaller can you be?

That is a bitch,
  I suppose the feds won’t just throw it back if they find out
they got a lil’ fish
  This whole medical MJ thing has had me paranoid since it began,
          I would qualify if I desired to have the feds & the state know to put me on their radar.
                  Same reason I have been against a federal concealed carry list too, I just
                            can’t trust all the folks who would have access to that info.
Prolly too L8 for me & many others, who have admitted to their Dr. years ago that they did use,
  As all medical documents are being sent to washington, thanks to Obama Care.
        Anyone with a record of PTSD better hide that gun collection very well,
Bloomberg just rescinded every new yorker’s concealed carry card, for folks who had a record
of ever having PTSD…. I actually predicted that back when Obamacare began, years ago.
 
  So folks, for the recap- Even if you are currently sufferring from a mental illness, If you ever have it
properly diagnosed by a medical professional, Your gun rights will dry up & blow away (as your name
will be added to the FBI’s Denial List. Ditto for Medical Marijuana card holders, soon as possible, your
right to own a gun will also evaporate. Of course the feds will first hafta approve the Medical Marijuana
program, in order to get the names on their list,  :ineeddrugs    But Keep it on the DL

That stuff about our past med records and gun collections .. will that apply to vets? can I get my past med recs out of the system?

Oh shit , Was I supposed To Remember my training after retirement?  :hookah: :smokepack :stoned

HOlY CRAP I GOTZ THE CINNAMON ROLL MUNCHIES!

Vets will be some of the 1st targeted probaly due to training.

  The greediest folks in the us (congressmen & senators) are most especially afeared of Vets,
because they have little to zero idea that anyone who practices can accurately shoot . Vets
that were diagnosed with ptsd are among those supposed to be found out first and have their
guns confiscated. These same powerful men (& women) don’t actually have any idea that most
criminals who are guilty of committing a crime with a firearm, actually stole the gun & ammo…..
  Fact is if you look at the 4473 form that is required to be filled out when buying a gun from a gun
dealer, you will see that Mental Health & Drug Use are both disqualifers on the present form. I also
happen to know that the Dept of (In) Justice has already (years ago) mailed a letter to every gun
dealer in the country advising them to keep an eye out for any Medical Marijuana ID Cards. If You
are buying a gun & the dealer sees your MM card, You are supposed to be disqualified for gun ownership,
the gun dealer has been ordered to call in your 4473 just like normal, but then say that You have been
Denied The Right to Buy or Own a Gun (if they see your MM id card that is). I don’t know the local laws where
you live, here in AZ guns sell private sale on backpage everyday, without any background check, as well as in
most newspapers. Of course there is a chance you will be buying someone’s broken gun, but at least it cannot
be traced back to you, in the event the gov’t decides one day that You May No Longer Legally Own a Gun
  Of course you can always simply tell the gov’t (if you live where private sale of guns is permitted) That You
sold that gun last decade, last year or yesterday, when they come for it… Speaking for myself, I lost All My Guns
in that horrible boating accident, ohh how I cried….